Episode 18: At Work In The Ruins

This is a beautiful conversation about endings, among other things.

Dougald is / was a long term climate campaigner - working alongside scientists, often picking up the story where their work ends. He joins Ben to talk about his new book, the beautifully titled ‘At Work In The Ruins’.

Picking a path through the various crises of our times, the book is equal part invitation and provocation; it is not a source book of solutions to the climate emergency and beyond. Quite the opposite.

It’s an invitation to think and feel and respond into our changing world with a humility, curiosity and hope. It’s an invitation to work to end all that no longer serves us - in modernity and the lives we currently lead. And in all these endings we might find that something new and far more beautiful is born.

Enjoy.

ben johnson